Ishar and Eye of the Beholder - Bugs - The Company Community Forum

Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

20 posts • Page 1 of 1

by marcuz » 31 May 2011, 16:20

sorry, maybe the topic is already discussed in Polish, if so, please ignore.

I've found that in Ishar 1 (not yet tested the other chapters) when you cross the border to the East beyond Rhudagast, when the password check is asked, no matter what you input in, the game hangs.

In Eye of the Beholder instead, it hangs when you try to save a game.

Both bugs are not present in the CAPS Whdload versions tested on Winuae in a bare ClassicWB setting.

About Eye of the Beholder, that kind of bug, if memory serves, is either specific to some particular setting of the Workbench or to a faulty disk. But it's a lot of time since I've tested that stuff...

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Elmek13 » 31 May 2011, 16:48

Thanks for info. :mrgreen:

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Shoonay » 31 May 2011, 22:05

Hey marco, could you please create a build-in save state before those happen and upload them for us?

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 01 Jun 2011, 11:25

Sure, i will!

[edit] ehm, how do you extract the .sgf files from the savegame directiry? i only see an empty directory when opening it from windows.

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 01 Jun 2011, 13:58

The default folder is virtually on C:\Game but really it's in %localappdata%/TheCompany
Save it in a separate folder, the desktop would your best choice i think :-)

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 01 Jun 2011, 19:38

here's the link to the file for Ishar!
http://ge.tt/8gtTrj4?c

Just go east some step and there's the code check. The game hangs, but not the emulation, so i guess that simply the crack is not enabled in the whdload slave?

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 01 Jun 2011, 21:34

Crack is ok.

You test this version: http://thecompany.pl/PB/Ishar_crash_test.exe

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 02 Jun 2011, 00:13

Nope, it still don't work. By the way, I have by mistake sent you an earlier savestate, i'm sorry.
It doesn't matter to the purpose of the bug, but it requires you a further trip East.

I apologize and I'll send you the correct one!

-- 02 Jun 2011, 01:13 --

here it is:
http://ge.tt/9xXaKk4?c
you just press 3 times onward to east and you enter the new area; you then fail the password check 3 times and the game hangs.
sorry again for the earlier savestate.

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Demonic » 02 Jun 2011, 16:59

Everything seems to be fine in: http://thecompany.pl/PB/Ishar_crash_test.exe

If going to that exact spot in the game is not a problem, please give us a "SAV" (floppy icon) and don't do SGF Unfortunately doing a SAV on your SGF doesn't work (black screen), despite the file being ok and all.

Please save a SAV and then after screen blinks multiple times and you'll be back in the game, press DELETE (it will take you to your desktop and exit the game). Try doing this at the beginning of your game.

It is possible that the old SGF doesn't cooperate with our new exe, which we gave you.

It's a pity that I don't know this game that well to check this moment quickly.
.sav file will be located in %localappdata%/TheCompany/Ishar Quadrilogy 4in1

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 03 Jun 2011, 00:15

I just tried to save the old fashion way, but it doesn't work.
I think I remember to have experienced quite the same problem in some particular version of the adf game.

When I try to save the game blink to black and it stays there, unresponsively.
There's a screen with some error message underneath the black one, you notice it only for a fraction of a second when you resort to press Alt + F4.

If I remember right, the game needed a properly named disk inserted to save on it

Or is it maybe a problem wuth the language? I'll try with a french run and I'll report it.

I'm sorry not to being able to be more precise! :/

-- 03 Jun 2011, 01:15 --

Ok tested (in french, but it's unrelevant, I think).

If I save at the start of the game, the savegame is properly created, no problem.

But if I try to pass the password check the game gets screwed nevertheless.
Also, I can't save anymore just before the password check: as before the game hangs.

I don't know what may be the problem.

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 03 Jun 2011, 22:45

hmmmmmmmmmmm

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 03 Jun 2011, 23:37

Sorry, just a clarification: for "irrelevant", yesterday, i just meant that using the french language was irrelevant, because I had then the same problems as in the other languages; not that your request for a savegame was irrelevant, I phrased myself poorly.

However, if you need the savegame, even if it's from the start of the game, and therefore of little use in regards of the password check position, that is one third of the game world away, I can upload that too.

But since the same problem in both on this game, and on Eye of the Beholder, me being NOT a programmer, by exclusion it could be:

- a bug related saving outside the original location: different paths in Windows documents directories that, by not identified reason, confound Winuae;

- a bug related to Whdload or to how your code handles the virtual environment of whdload (it could be this too, considering how the slave should "hack" the code for the password check on the fly, while it fails to do so);

- a defective disk? But that would not explain the faulty saving.

Am i the only one experiencing this? And more important, if there's some systematic problem regarding saving and loading files outside the virtual environment, does it happens / has been reported about other Exes too?

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 05 Jun 2011, 20:38

Could you please check the original whd version of Ishar and send the save? :-)

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 06 Jun 2011, 22:21

Will do, as soon as I have a moment, this week!

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 07 Jun 2011, 17:05

Gooooooooooooood!! :-)

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 08 Jun 2011, 21:32

I got news!

Ok i did the save, playing from a whdload install on ClassicWB.
I also tested the password check again, and it was successfully passed.

then i moved the sav file outside the emulation and while i was doing it i've noticed that i had also an IsharAGA directory, and that the one i had just played was the OCS version.
So i thought to test and make a sav of that too, and it was a bit of a surprise but the AGA version hangs on saving (at least in the same area of the map as i saved instead on the OCS version: i haven't tryed somewhere else yet) and also don't pass the password check.

Therefore, simply the AGA version of the whdload slave is buggy, it's not a problem of your EXE, but for using it :/
That's unless you have used the Killergorilla pre-installed file for your EXE, as it is mine, and in that case it may be that particular one to have a faulty disk and not eventually the slave to be buggy, but i doubt it.

I also tryed to load the OCS savefile into the AGA one, but i couldn't: i don't know if it is because of the different keymap that the AGA version was using and that complicated the test or because of a different coding of the savegame.

Anyway, for completition' sake, here is the link to the OCS savegame, even if at this point is obsolete...
http://ge.tt/8wpEUw4?c

As far as i can tell, both the Ishar AGA slave and your EXE , because of it's use of that, are broken there.

Will you please report it at the Whdload site and or EAB too? I feel I've done too much betatesting for one evening already

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by bigbadcompany » 10 Jun 2011, 15:27

marcuz wrote:I got news!

We are very grateful for your help. For now, we will correct version OCS. It will be a matter of time :-)

But will be soon I guess

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 10 Jun 2011, 18:15

Thanks to you!

By the way, I took the liberty to forward the bug of the AGA slave to the whdload team; I doubt they will fix it soon, as it seems CFOU! is not much active since some time, but nevertheless...

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by Anthrox » 10 Jun 2011, 19:26

http://thecompany.pl/Beta/Ishar.Quadrilogy.4in1.(v2.5a)(1990-1994)(Silmarils)-TheCompany.exe
- changed Ishar AGA to Ishar OCS

http://thecompany.pl/Beta/Eye.Of.The.Beholder.2in1.(v2.5a)(1991-92)(Westwood)-TheCompany.exe
- fixed build-in savegame

Re: Ishar and Eye of the Beholder

by marcuz » 11 Jun 2011, 02:01

You guys are great! thank you!

20 posts • Page 1 of 1